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Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:39 pm
by Scott
To Calgary

Brendan Smith
2011 4th round pick (NSH)

To New Jersey

Jon Blum
Joel Chouinard
2011 3rd round pick (BUF)
2011 3rd round pick (TOR)

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:41 pm
by fedro91
The Devil wroteCOLONTo Calgary

Brendan Smith
2011 4th round pick (NSH)

To New Jersey

Jon Blum
Joel Chouinard
2011 3rd round pick (BUF)
2011 3rd round pick (TOR)

Calagary accept the deal and I know I loss big. But I feel when Lidstrom will retired Smith will take is place. SO hopefully I'm right.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:44 pm
by shooker
Lidstrom just signed for another year no?

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:46 pm
by Robin Hood
shooker wroteCOLONLidstrom just signed for another year no?
YEAH HE DID :mrgreen:

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:48 pm
by Scott
I think Frank means WHEn Lids retires Smith will have a shot at #1

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:02 pm
by Shep
Nice.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:46 am
by Nick
LOL. Blum > Smtih... I told frank that and he agreed...

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:59 am
by Tony
Ouch

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:18 am
by Robin Hood
facey wroteCOLONLOL. Blum > Smtih... I told frank that and he agreed...
+1

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:11 am
by Shoalzie
Smith is a quality prospect but don't expect much from him this year on the NHL level. With Lidstrom returning and the cap going up, Holland has a tendency to load up when he's got a short window with a group of players. He'll probably sign a couple free agent defensemen to replace Rafalski and maybe even Ericsson. Smith probably won't be a full time Red Wing until '12-13.

I talked to Scott about Smith but I knew this year he wasn't going to be a factor and it's not worth overpaying for a guy that is going to sit on the bench most of the year. I wouldn't be shocked to see Smith in the NHL this year but it won't be as a member of the opening day roster. He'll be an injury call up if anything.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:34 am
by Shep
Blum and Smith both suck, nbd.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:47 am
by fedro91
Shoalzie wroteCOLONSmith is a quality prospect but don't expect much from him this year on the NHL level. With Lidstrom returning and the cap going up, Holland has a tendency to load up when he's got a short window with a group of players. He'll probably sign a couple free agent defensemen to replace Rafalski and maybe even Ericsson. Smith probably won't be a full time Red Wing until '12-13.

I talked to Scott about Smith but I knew this year he wasn't going to be a factor and it's not worth overpaying for a guy that is going to sit on the bench most of the year. I wouldn't be shocked to see Smith in the NHL this year but it won't be as a member of the opening day roster. He'll be an injury call up if anything.
I'm not expecting him to do something this year. But I believe he'll be very good for the 2012-2013 season. Ryan Ellis will have a better shot at making the Nashville. If I'm wrong then so be it. I,m here to take chances and to built a team to a winner.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:54 am
by Shoalzie
Good on you, Frank...I'm sure Smith will turn out to be a good player for the Wings. I'm hoping he will as a fan of the team. It's just how the Wings operate. They don't rush prospects to the NHL nor do they put too many pressure on their prospects to lead their team right away. Smith is a 2007 pick but he might not see the NHL until 5 or 6 years later. Howard was an '03 pick...he had playing time for a couple years but it wasn't until 2009-10 that he had a chance to start. Until they fall back into the lottery (which I hope isn't soon), they won't look to the guys they draft as players that need to help them immediately. They let them season in the AHL or college or Europe and bring them in when they feel the time is right. Smith would probably get an earlier look if he was in another organization but the Wings will allow him to have an extra year of development before taking the training wheels off.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:18 am
by Scott
Blum>Smith offensive.. maybe.. but definitely not h2h. And, this is a h2h league guys..

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:19 am
by Shep
Smith will definitely be better H2H, that's for sure. But, both will be poo

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:17 pm
by MSP4LYFE
^ Why is that? During his time in the WHL, Jonathan Blum was widely regarded as not only the best defenceman in the league, but best overall player. The only thing holding him back is the insane depth of NSH on D (Suter, Weber, Franson), but in terms of potential he is right there with Subban and Carlson, he has the same production, if not better at every level of hockey, save for the NHL.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:26 pm
by Nick
I saw Blum quiet a bit on the giants, he's frigging awesome....a slick skating, creative dman who doesn't lack grit or defensive positioning....

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:37 pm
by Robin Hood
what kareem and nick said. Blum is awesome. Smith isn't even in the NHL yet and we are making him out to be an h2h player > Blum?

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:41 pm
by Shep
Did you watch Blum in Nashville this year? I realize he's a 21 year old rookie ... but he was not very good at all.

Either way Scott wins, if not on value alone.

I just think both suck.

Re: Trade: CGY/NJD

PostedCOLON Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:45 pm
by Scott
Joel Chouinard was the key to this deal for me.. I think he has as much offensive potential as both Blum and Smith.