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NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:42 pm
by 214_Stars
To New Jersey:
-Brian Boyle
-Drew Shore
-Erik Karlsson
-2012 3rd round Entry Draft NYR

To Dallas:
-John Tavares
-Philippe Dupuis

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:43 pm
by Scott
The Knight team is coming apart. Confirmed

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:44 pm
by MSP4LYFE
LOL, there is no way I don't select Nail Yakupov at the end of the year...Nice deal fella's.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:45 pm
by 214_Stars
I'm sorry Shep...know you you put some hard work into the Karlsson sig, and it only lasted 1.5 weeks.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:47 pm
by Chris
Too bad you didn't wait it out. I would have done a little better than that when my two weeks trade freeze was up.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:48 pm
by MSP4LYFE
^ Brian Boyle is a H2H monster to be fair.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:52 pm
by bma
nice deal boys, like what Bill is doing

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:59 pm
by bills09
BOOM

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:15 pm
by Chris
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON^ Brian Boyle is a H2H monster to be fair.
I went looking over the counters. I might be a little inexperienced with the way counting stats are valued here, but I don't think Tavares is close to reaching his potential. He'll never be a Brian Boyle with SHTOI/Hits/BS, but he's good enough that his points can do some damage that Boyle can't.

Mind you, I'm going over some of the rankings right now. It's interesting that a third-liner like Boyle gets 218 shots on net, with just a shade under a 10% shooting percentage, which might be suggestive of someone who had a career year. But his other numbers like hits, outdistances Tavares' numbers considerably. Who knows? It's not a trade I'd very interested in, but I might change my tune as I start to take control of my team.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:22 pm
by MSP4LYFE
I wouldn't have made the deal either, just pointing out that Boyle is a h2h beast.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:26 pm
by Scott
I just wanted to make a trade.. I to think Bill did very well.. but it was more to show everyone I'm serious and that my interest levels are back to where they should be!

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:31 pm
by bills09
hockeysense wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON^ Brian Boyle is a H2H monster to be fair.
I went looking over the counters. I might be a little inexperienced with the way counting stats are valued here, but I don't think Tavares is close to reaching his potential. He'll never be a Brian Boyle with SHTOI/Hits/BS, but he's good enough that his points can do some damage that Boyle can't.

Mind you, I'm going over some of the rankings right now. It's interesting that a third-liner like Boyle gets 218 shots on net, with just a shade under a 10% shooting percentage, which might be suggestive of someone who had a career year. But his other numbers like hits, outdistances Tavares' numbers considerably. Who knows? It's not a trade I'd very interested in, but I might change my tune as I start to take control of my team.
Karlson is a pretty studly defencemen, Karlsson+Boyles point totals, should exceed or at least match Tavares', not to mention together will out periph him nicely.
not to mention a fairly solid prospect in Drew Shore.
that being said its a solid deal.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:33 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Scott essentially ensured that the Dallas pick remains in the basement for this season, I'm sure that was a strong consideration behind this deal.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:01 pm
by shooker
value wise I still like it for Bill. If this was for Vinny or an aging vet I would think its a bad trade but its Tavares a young guy, could be the cornerstone for his franchise for years to come. I like it for him.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:10 pm
by kimmer
You added to Tavares? Generous of you

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:14 pm
by MSP4LYFE
You know how I know you're both from Cal State?

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:21 pm
by Chris
I think when you try to condense stats into one player, it clouds the water a bit because teams should have spots for special players who can absolutely and thoroughly dominate in one or two categories. Tavares is that guy. Hits and BS are up and down, year to year, though I see why the value is there with Boyle and Karlsson.

Interesting deal to say the least. An eye-opener for my first day.

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:22 pm
by kimmer
Chris???

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:26 pm
by Shep
hockeysense wroteCOLONI think when you try to condense stats into one player, it clouds the water a bit because teams should have spots for special players who can absolutely and thoroughly dominate in one or two categories. Tavares is that guy. Hits and BS are up and down, year to year, though I see why the value is there with Boyle and Karlsson.

Interesting deal to say the least. An eye-opener for my first day.
You'll see a lot of big trades.

Wait til Shiv goes on a frenzy ;)

Re: NJD / DAL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:03 am
by kyuss
214_Stars wroteCOLONI'm sorry Shep...know you you put some hard work into the Karlsson sig, and it only lasted 1.5 weeks.
and that signature was awesome too...

nice deal though.