Page 1 of 2

Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:08 pm
by Robin Hood
I've had a lot of GMs ask about him in the last few weeks and I've immediately replied that I'm not interested in trading him. On the block. Make an offer if interested. PM/MSN

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:04 am
by anton
burrows + setoguchi for marleau

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:15 am
by Scott
Downie & Rattie

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:30 am
by anton
The Devil wroteCOLONDownie & Rattie
dude, keep your joke offers to yourself please. this is a serious thread.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:07 am
by Robin Hood
anton wroteCOLONburrows + setoguchi for marleau
lol.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:15 am
by Mike
SuperMario wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONburrows + setoguchi for marleau
lol.
For the hell of it, using my flawed power rankings:

78 (Burrows) + 155 (Setoguchi) for 27 (Marleau)

System is tipped towards centers in this iteration, haven't quite worked out the kinks.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:24 am
by anton
looks about right

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:24 am
by Scott
so, Marleau's the 27th best player? Or?

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:33 am
by Nick
ye, have you check his stats, dude is money h2h.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:36 am
by Mike
The Devil wroteCOLONso, Marleau's the 27th best player? Or?
I should have specified, all three of these rankings are for FORWARDS only.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:45 am
by Robin Hood
Mike wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONburrows + setoguchi for marleau
lol.
For the hell of it, using my flawed power rankings:

78 (Burrows) + 155 (Setoguchi) for 27 (Marleau)

System is tipped towards centers in this iteration, haven't quite worked out the kinks.
It is flawed. Burrows alone is worth more than Marleau. Marleau is actually a negative asset as a Center. He ensures you LOSE FOW every single week. Not to mention the 4.9M in cap difference for a very similar stat line.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:46 am
by Robin Hood
The Devil wroteCOLONso, Marleau's the 27th best player? Or?
No he is not. lol.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:48 am
by Mike
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONburrows + setoguchi for marleau
lol.
For the hell of it, using my flawed power rankings:

78 (Burrows) + 155 (Setoguchi) for 27 (Marleau)

System is tipped towards centers in this iteration, haven't quite worked out the kinks.
It is flawed. Burrows alone is worth more than Marleau. Marleau is actually a negative asset as a Center. He ensures you LOSE FOW every single week. Not to mention the 4.9M in cap difference for a very similar stat line.
Marleau: 707
Burrows: 573

Faceoffs could only account for ~30 points difference.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:49 am
by Scott
SuperMario wroteCOLON
The Devil wroteCOLONso, Marleau's the 27th best player? Or?
No he is not. lol.
I was referring to Mikes ranking.. I didn't believe it to be true.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:51 am
by Nick
Patties # are really nice.

Shiv do you have 3 centres right now, but are claiming adding him would ensure you lose FOW every week?

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:53 am
by Robin Hood
Mike wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONburrows + setoguchi for marleau
lol.
For the hell of it, using my flawed power rankings:

78 (Burrows) + 155 (Setoguchi) for 27 (Marleau)

System is tipped towards centers in this iteration, haven't quite worked out the kinks.
It is flawed. Burrows alone is worth more than Marleau. Marleau is actually a negative asset as a Center. He ensures you LOSE FOW every single week. Not to mention the 4.9M in cap difference for a very similar stat line.
Marleau: 707
Burrows: 573

Faceoffs could only account for ~30 points difference.
That's not what I'm saying though. A team with Marleau as one of its 5 Cs is at a major disadvantage compared to a team with 5 Legit Cs. You immediately start the week down 0-1-0.

Secondly, the difference between Marleau and Burrows is 4.9 M in cap. Projecting their stat lines:

Marleau: 35 G, 35 A, 20 PIMS, 80 Hits, 160 SHTOI, 275 SOG
Burrows: 25 G, 30 A, 100 PIMS, 80 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 200 SOG

Why am I expending $5M more in cap for 10 Goals and 75 Shots?

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:55 am
by Robin Hood
Nick wroteCOLONPatties # are really nice.

Shiv do you have 3 centres right now, but are claiming adding him would ensure you lose FOW every week?
Read my post regarding Marleau's numbers vs Burrows'.

As far as FOW is concerned, you're assuming I have no options. if I traded for Marleau, I'd have to retrade him for a Center or a Winger. I'd rather keep Burrows and find a Center that actually gets FOW.

Oh and btw, this is not to mention that more teams want Burrows on their team than Marleau.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:57 am
by Mike
SuperMario wroteCOLONThat's not what I'm saying though. A team with Marleau as one of its 5 Cs is at a major disadvantage compared to a team with 5 Legit Cs. You immediately start the week down 0-1-0.

Secondly, the difference between Marleau and Burrows is 4.9 M in cap. Projecting their stat lines:

Marleau: 35 G, 35 A, 20 PIMS, 80 Hits, 160 SHTOI, 275 SOG
Burrows: 25 G, 30 A, 100 PIMS, 80 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 200 SOG

Why am I expending $5M more in cap for 10 Goals and 75 Shots?
I am not accounting for salary. The values I put forth are based solely on production, not intrinsic value.

The penalty for Marleau being a center is more than accounted for in their production gulf.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:59 am
by Nick
where did u get those # from shiv?

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?

+14a
+280fow
+9g
+5gwg
-50pims
+25pts
+120sog
+26 stpts
----------
+4.9M

and a player who produces on own merit not that of his teammates.

Re: Alex Burrows

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:59 am
by Robin Hood
Mike wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLONThat's not what I'm saying though. A team with Marleau as one of its 5 Cs is at a major disadvantage compared to a team with 5 Legit Cs. You immediately start the week down 0-1-0.

Secondly, the difference between Marleau and Burrows is 4.9 M in cap. Projecting their stat lines:

Marleau: 35 G, 35 A, 20 PIMS, 80 Hits, 160 SHTOI, 275 SOG
Burrows: 25 G, 30 A, 100 PIMS, 80 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 200 SOG

Why am I expending $5M more in cap for 10 Goals and 75 Shots?
I am not accounting for salary. The values I put forth are based solely on production, not intrinsic value.

The penalty for Marleau being a center is more than accounted for in their production gulf.
Absolutely. But to talk about rankings without salary is silly. And IMO the the difference in production does not merit spending 5M more on cap. It's borderline insanity.