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PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:50 pm
by Robin Hood
To Toronto

James Wisniewski
John-Michael Liles


To Pittsburgh

Kimmo Timonen
Ryan Strome

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:51 pm
by Mike
SuperMario wroteCOLONTo Toronto

James Wisniewski
John-Michael Liles


To Pittsburgh

Kimmo Timonen
Ryan Strome
Confirmed.

Kyle, you still need a d-man? I HAVE TOO MANY

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:52 pm
by Mike
Letang - Green
Whitney - Ehrhoff
Wisniewski - Liles
Clitsome - Bergeron
Bouillon - Blum
Gardiner - Weber

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:54 pm
by bma
INTERESTING

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:57 pm
by MSP4LYFE
If Toronto wasn't the run away favorite before this trade, he is now.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:12 pm
by Nick
amazing deal for Mike.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:30 pm
by Scott
meh, I'd rather Kimmo then Wiz or JML..

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:33 pm
by Robin Hood
The Devil wroteCOLONmeh, I'd rather Kimmo then Wiz or JML..
Pretty much my rationale. I saw the trade as essentially Liles for Strome. Some might call it overpayment. But I've been after Strome for quite some time.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:37 pm
by Mike
Wiz is much better than both Kimmo and Liles, who are about equal. Kimmo's a bit better but the cap savings and age bridge that gap.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:49 pm
by Scott
Mike wroteCOLONWiz is much better than both Kimmo and Liles, who are about equal. Kimmo's a bit better but the cap savings and age bridge that gap.
Incorrect

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:51 pm
by Mike
The Devil wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONWiz is much better than both Kimmo and Liles, who are about equal. Kimmo's a bit better but the cap savings and age bridge that gap.
Incorrect
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:52 pm
by Scott
Mike wroteCOLON
The Devil wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONWiz is much better than both Kimmo and Liles, who are about equal. Kimmo's a bit better but the cap savings and age bridge that gap.
Incorrect
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
:) :lol:

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:05 pm
by Nick
Wiz is a monster, and is poised to repeat with his awesome situation in CBJ

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:00 pm
by Chris
Wizniewski was sheltered in Montreal by their collapsing system. The hits, blocked shots, SHTOI time, etc... all product of Montreal's zone play. In a more open system, Wisniewski will struggle. Wouldn't surprise me if he's considered one of the worse signings at the end of the year.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:08 pm
by Nick
He had awesome # in nyi as well... Iirc was ohl Dman of the year before breaking in with the hawks

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:14 pm
by MSP4LYFE
You don't score 50 by accident...Wisniewski is a good player, his contract is fair market value too, the only reason it is seen as overpayment is because Wisniewski is unproven outside of last year, but it wouldn't be the first time a player broke out late (*cough* Marc Savard *cough*).

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:19 pm
by Chris
Eh. I don't disagree there's something to like with Wisniewski; he is a talented offensive defenseman. I just don't see a top-pairing guy with him. Also note that his SHTOI was likely very inflated in Long Island (though I'm not sure about his blocked shots/hits there). Edit: Just checked NHL.com stats page - can't find anything that splits the difference.

He's a smallish defenseman who's going to be the team's first-pairing guy. To me, that screams failure.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:23 pm
by Chris
29 points on the powerplay, with only 22 points even-strength.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:21 pm
by Shep
Arguably the biggest rape in the history of BBKL. Love this one for Frank.

Re: PIT/TOR

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:37 pm
by bills09
Shep wroteCOLONArguably the biggest rape in the history of BBKL. Love this one for Frank.
INORIGHT?!!?111