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Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:55 pm
by Bruyns
First Sabres block of the 14/15 season

Have talked trade with plenty of GMs, but figured I would shop a few valuable players and see what's out there.

Turris - #1C 1st PP, 2nd PK 199FOW in 22 games
Bollig - #s down slightly from last season, but cheap and a great source of hits and PIMs
Clarkson - PIMS, hits, 2nd PP and has been playing much better this season. More value as a BBKLer than NHLer
Oshie - Healthy now, coming off a G 2A night with 5 SOG. All around contributor, 1st PP 2nd PK
Tlusty - 26 year old 1st line W, 10G, another all around contributor and up to a career high 1:45 SHTOI per game
Demers - Stats and TOI have seen a big increase since joining Dallas. 33 hits, 22 blocks, PP and PK and trending up
McDonagh - One of the top D last season, first game back today, A, 22:11 3:37PP 6:16PK 3SOG, 3 hits, 3 blocks
2016 1st LAK
2016 1st BUF

Depth Players Available for futures for teams looking for GP

Connauton - Getting more icetime in CLB, only 24 and was over a point per game in his WHL career with success in the AHL and still has decent NHL potential
Megna - 9Gs in 17 AHL games. Called up to Pens and has 10 hits in 3 games of limited ice time
Hunt - Made the Oilers and got into 6 games playing 20:10 on average. 15 points in 9 AHL games make it very likely he sees NHL ice again.

Available, but unlikely to move either due to me overvaluing or due to market value not meeting what I think it should be

Stewart
Benn
Perreault
Despres
Savard
Lehtera

Probably a waste of your time asking

Crosby
Hall
Kane
Horvat
Gibson
Gudas
Gudbranson
Zadorov
Nurse
Pulock

Not really looking for anything in particular, but I'm the top PIMs team and among the leaders in hits so I'd sacrifice some of that for offence if a team is interested. Not interested in 30+ at this time, I will eventually shift gears and look to add veterans, but at this point in time younger players appeal more to me as they hold more value when I decide to compete and trade them for vets.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:25 am
by kimmer
hello

talk to me about McDonaugh

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:53 am
by Bruyns
Would likely need another top pair D back in return or a top 4+

Eakin + Emelin for McDonagh + Lander

Mcdonagh is 25 and locked up until 2019 at 4.7 so he won't come cheap.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:01 pm
by Matthew
Same question from me

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:14 pm
by Bruyns
Matthew wroteCOLONSame question from me
Couldn't make a McDonagh deal work, unfortunately not interested in much from your team.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:19 pm
by kimmer
Bruyns wroteCOLONWould likely need another top pair D back in return or a top 4+

Eakin + Emelin for McDonagh + Lander

Mcdonagh is 25 and locked up until 2019 at 4.7 so he won't come cheap.
thanks but I have no interest in trading away a centre outright to pay for a D. Aside scoring Emelin puts up similar periph as MCD

Make it Perreault instead of Lander and we have a deal

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:21 pm
by bills09
Pick me pick me I want the mcD

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:24 pm
by kimmer
kimmer wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONWould likely need another top pair D back in return or a top 4+

Eakin + Emelin for McDonagh + Lander

Mcdonagh is 25 and locked up until 2019 at 4.7 so he won't come cheap.
thanks but I have no interest in trading away a centre outright to pay for a D. Aside scoring Emelin puts up similar periph as MCD

Make it Perreault instead of Lander and we have a deal
actually nm... I'm gonna keep my guys. Counter retracted

no interest in throwing away H2H numbers for value at this time

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:28 pm
by thom54
hahaha I'll take McD

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:47 pm
by KapG
Ehrhoff and Sproul for mcd

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:59 pm
by LeanMachine
kimmer wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONWould likely need another top pair D back in return or a top 4+

Eakin + Emelin for McDonagh + Lander

Mcdonagh is 25 and locked up until 2019 at 4.7 so he won't come cheap.
thanks but I have no interest in trading away a centre outright to pay for a D. Aside scoring Emelin puts up similar periph as MCD

Make it Perreault instead of Lander and we have a deal
actually nm... I'm gonna keep my guys. Counter retracted

no interest in throwing away H2H numbers for value at this time
He kinda valued Spurgeon the same way as emelin when I asked for McDonagh. Looks like someone will over pay to get McDonagh.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:37 pm
by Bruyns
LeanMachine wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONWould likely need another top pair D back in return or a top 4+

Eakin + Emelin for McDonagh + Lander

Mcdonagh is 25 and locked up until 2019 at 4.7 so he won't come cheap.
thanks but I have no interest in trading away a centre outright to pay for a D. Aside scoring Emelin puts up similar periph as MCD

Make it Perreault instead of Lander and we have a deal
actually nm... I'm gonna keep my guys. Counter retracted

no interest in throwing away H2H numbers for value at this time
He kinda valued Spurgeon the same way as emelin when I asked for McDonagh. Looks like someone will over pay to get McDonagh.
I might keep him too, only testing the waters since this is the first time I've owned him while healthy. He is a 25 year old captain locked up for 4 more years at only 4.7 coming off a season where he was 6th in goals, 17th in points, 14th in SOG, 23rd in STP, 30th in SHTOI and 43rd in blocks. That's elite in enough stats that I think he is worth more than Spurgeon so when you said you wouldn't do Spurgeon 1 for 1 I was surprised, he has had better stats this season, but I chalk that up to SSS.

Paul your retracted counter was fair and I almost offered that to begin with, but think Perreault will start putting up points after a slow start and I lose too much offence for periphs and I'm already strong there.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:42 pm
by Bruyns
KapG wroteCOLONEhrhoff and Sproul for mcd
Not that interested in Sproul. High risk/reward as he will either be a very valuable Barrie type of D or his offence won't be there at the NHL level and will be more like Ellis at best.

Hamonic/Schenn would be of more interest than Ehrhoff, but don't think we could find an add that works for both of us.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:34 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Kesler+for crosby

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:10 pm
by LeanMachine
Matt you want me to pay for what he did last season and that just ain't going to happen. Spurgeon is the better player for stats+contract+age. Just look it up. McDonagh hit his peak last season. McDonagh certainly has the sexy name brand though. Someone will pay for that I agree.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:16 pm
by kyuss
LeanMachine wroteCOLONMatt you want me to pay for what he did last season and that just ain't going to happen. Spurgeon is the better player for stats+contract+age.
Well, at least u didn't add "on the ice"

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:32 pm
by LeanMachine
Lol

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:43 pm
by Bruyns
McDonagh is the same age as Spurgeon is locked up long term and will likely be cheaper for 2016-2019. Don't know of many D who have a great season at 24 and that's there peak and then they decline.

Stats are better this season, but McDonagh has played 12 games which is why I referred to last season, since it is a much better way to gauge what type of player he is then using a small sample size. Anyways no point in me continuing to defend this position since I think 29 other GMs would prefer McDonagh to Spurgeon and comparing Spurgeon's 17 games to McDonagh's 12 isn't enough games to draw conclusions.

I'm happy you prefer Spurgeon and I think he is a very good D so I have no issue at all with you wanting to hold onto him.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:16 pm
by LeanMachine
I would also agree comparing 17 to 12 games, ya Gms would say McDonagh. He is the proven choice. I knew this from the trade block thread I created for Spurgeon a week or so ago. But that was never position I was defending.

Spurgeon is on the way up. Constantly improving every year; and most importantly THIS YEAR. Since returning from injury, he's been playing 27-29 mins a night. That's unreal for a kid his age. McDonagh has taken a step back, even with his injury. And that isn't even a real knock on McDonagh. The guy had a sur-real year last season; it would hard for anyone to duplicate. Point is: You're asking for Spurgeon + two high end prospects in return for McDonagh; you'd think this was one year ago. Spurgeon is MUCH better than anyone gives credit here and McDonagh in CURRENTLY on the down. Not saying he can't turn it around as he is young.

My advice would be if you want the big return you want, hold onto him till he gets hot; playing like the McDonagh we are all familiar with.

Re: Buffalo Block

PostedCOLON Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:31 pm
by kimmer
Lol nice