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CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:27 am
by kimmer
To CAR:
Ilya Sorokin
Kevin Shattenkirk
2021 6th rounder (MON)
2021 7th rounder (DAL)
To DAL:
Jordan Kyrou
Jamie Oleksiak
Yaroslav Askarov
2021 2nd rounder (CGY)

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:27 am
by lightupdadarkness
kimmer wroteCOLONTo CAR:
Iyla Sorokin
Kevin Shattenkirk
2021 6th rounder (MON)
2021 7th rounder (DAL)
To DAL:
Jordan Kyrou
Jamie Oleksiak
Yaroslav Askarov
2021 2nd rounder (CGY)
Confirm

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:33 am
by The BBKL Insider
I think Will cleans this deal up.

Paul gives up the best 2 pieces in Askarov and Kyrou. He also adds the higher pick.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:39 am
by Matthew
Oh my. Easy win for will.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:39 am
by Da_Hawks
Askarov + 2nd for Sorokin. Fine. Though as a rebuilding team it makes no sense to pay given he is already 25 and has not shown to be good at the NHL level at this time.

Shatts + 6th + 7th for Kyrou + Oleksiak = makes no sense for Carolina.

Can we give Kimmer a trade advisor permanently?

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:44 am
by kyuss
looks really bad for Carolina.

What's the point of holding onto your 1st rounders if then you lose in a deal like this the player you ended up drafting?

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:59 am
by kimmer
lol @ thinking aska + 2nd gets u sorokin..
chicago u never cease to entertain me. keep up the good work

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:02 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
Finally this deal is done lol.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:03 pm
by Da_Hawks
kimmer wroteCOLONlol @ thinking aska + 2nd gets u sorokin..
chicago u never cease to entertain me. keep up the good work
LOl @ you thinking you made a good deal when so far you are 0-for in compliments and kudos.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:08 pm
by CasperX22
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONlol @ thinking aska + 2nd gets u sorokin..
chicago u never cease to entertain me. keep up the good work
LOl @ you thinking you made a good deal when so far you are 0-for in compliments and kudos.
So compliments and kudos are the measurement of success in a deal now? Interesting.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:21 pm
by Da_Hawks
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONlol @ thinking aska + 2nd gets u sorokin..
chicago u never cease to entertain me. keep up the good work
LOl @ you thinking you made a good deal when so far you are 0-for in compliments and kudos.
So compliments and kudos are the measurement of success in a deal now? Interesting.
It measures the initial perceived value of the deal, but of course it does not measure the actual value... that will be determined in 5 years or so.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:24 pm
by dave1959
If Sorokin turns out to be a number one goalie (and Askarov doesn't), this isn't terrible for Paul

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:25 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
Don’t like it at all for Paul.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:26 pm
by KapG
Paul...this is not what I was expecting when you and I were talking about this deal lol. Jeeeeeeeeeeze

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:27 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLONlol @ thinking aska + 2nd gets u sorokin..
chicago u never cease to entertain me. keep up the good work
LOl @ you thinking you made a good deal when so far you are 0-for in compliments and kudos.
So compliments and kudos are the measurement of success in a deal now? Interesting.
It measures the initial perceived value of the deal, but of course it does not measure the actual value... that will be determined in 5 years or so.
Nah what happens in the future will be fun in hindsight, but the only time to properly asses a trade is today with information available when the trade was made.

There is a price to pay to speed up the development of Askarov + security of Sorokin already being in the NHL. Was it too much? Possibly, but I'm not going to pretend to know a thing about goalies.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:31 pm
by Florida Chris
Love this for Dallas

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:03 pm
by Shep
Sorokin is 25 and Varlamov is signed for 3 more years at 5 Million.

No brainer deal for Dallas.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:08 pm
by CasperX22
Shep wroteCOLONSorokin is 25 and Varlamov is signed for 3 more years at 5 Million.

No brainer deal for Dallas.
2 years beyond this year, but it's not like there is a flat cap and goalies have never been bought out or anything. Either way Sorokin will claim a larger piece of the starts sooner than later. They didn't bring him over to be a backup.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:39 pm
by koomzzz
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONAskarov + 2nd for Sorokin. Fine. Though as a rebuilding team it makes no sense to pay given he is already 25 and has not shown to be good at the NHL level at this time.
The guys started two games. One was a last minute start after Varlamov got stung in warmups or whatever. His team has also provided him with exactly zero goal support in those two starts.

Re: CAR/DAL

PostedCOLON Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:49 pm
by Da_Hawks
koomzzz wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONAskarov + 2nd for Sorokin. Fine. Though as a rebuilding team it makes no sense to pay given he is already 25 and has not shown to be good at the NHL level at this time.
The guys started two games. One was a last minute start after Varlamov got stung in warmups or whatever. His team has also provided him with exactly zero goal support in those two starts.
Exactly. He hasn't proven anything at the NHL level yet.